Being led by the Spirit
Submitted by theshovelHowever, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you ... For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:9,14
While we often question what it is to be led by the Spirit, we so easily miss the fact that those who are born of God ARE BEING led by the Spirit of God. Just consider how often our behaviors cause us to conclude that we are in the flesh. But Paul was quite clear in declaring that being indwelt by the Spirit of God negates that possibility. You see, we have been taught to judge what it is to be led by the Spirit when the results fit the usual idea of good outcomes. Here, it's all together so that even suffering is realized as falling within that leading. Pay attention to the range of suffering that might otherwise cause us to assume that we've been operating in the flesh:
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? ... For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.Romans 8:35,38-39
How can we agree to these amazing statements and then speculate that we must be "in the flesh" as soon we're in the midst of any one of the things mentioned that cannot separate us from his love? These verses are not just saying that these things can't separate us from GOD (as in a positional security sense), but that they can't separate us from his LOVE. For love is the very stuff that has been shed abroad in our hearts, the very substance of our lives. After all, the fruit of the Spirit IS love. Our being led by the Spirit is the continued presence of his love working in and through us. Just because the appearance of that love working within you might sometimes cause you to ask, "Father, why have you forsaken me?", do not overlook the truth of what is actually coming forth from your heart:
For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father! Romans 8:15
If your heart is calling out to your Father, don't attribute it to a lack of being led, for it is proof that you are being led.
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Being led of the Spirit
Thank you for this encouraging, clarifying word of truth. How often there is the temptation to equate what our Father is doing, by His Spirit, by how we feel; yet where is the scripture that tells us to "walk by sight, by our feelings"? No where, of course; rather it is made clear that we are to walk by faith, His faith in us.
I do appreciate what you pass along - so good to hear/read what HE says, and not what man says He says.
Joanne Anstine
thank you ...
The Sobering Truth and the Faith we stand in...
It is great to consider this great Love for us, you and me. Knowing that we are indeed truly loved, from the heart by God[and with True, perfect Love], is something that can not compare to anything else we might be tempted to engage in.
Thanks Jim for this,
Adam
Great word, Jim!!!!
All those years when we were totally lost and dominated by the flesh the Spirit of Christ was ever-so 'working-behind-the-scenes' drawing us to Him. Then, through His grace, we were miraculously Born-Again, and we joyfully received Him as our Savior and our life ("I was once blind but now I see".)Ya know ... THE ROLES HAVE NOW REVERSED!! That is, in the flesh we were the-god-of-our-own-lives, blind and just could not help from being servants of sin(Romans 6:14-19). BUT NOW we are slaves to righteousness and WE CANNOT HELP BUT TO OBEY. The flesh will allure but only as a pawn in the Father's hand. We will obey for it is Christ who as at work in you. We are Children of God in every sense of the word. Receive the circumstances, joys ,and even the heartaches of your life as a necessary event from a loving Father (Romans 8: 28-29). DO NOT EVER let condemnation be a part of your life. All of life's events are orchestrated by the Father. Enter ... and rest in the Father's work. I'll stop now ...
nergo 2
Thanks for the responses!
I really appreciate what y'all have added here! :)
Jim
Appreciation
Jim M., your writings are a continuing joy. Even when I am occasionally hesitant they are at least great for consideration. Keep them coming!
Jim Adams
I'll keep them coming!
Thanks for your encouraging response, Jim! :)
Jim
Didn't understand something...
Thanks Jim
Good uplifting thoughts, but I didn't understand this sentence?
"Just because the appearance of that love working within you might sometimes cause you to ask,"
Sprint
In other words...
In other words, we often mistake the working of love because all we can see are the trials, distress, persecution, etc. At those times, we might be asking God why he has forsaken us because we have been taught to assume such things must mean that something is wrong within us. Does that help?
Jim
Problems..
Jim,
Hasn't sin consciousness driven allot of the misunderstanding here as well? I mean one the biggest confusions we face in the midst of personal struggle is in the attempt to find out if it is "our fault". Why? So we CAN remain in God's favor, acceptance and forgiveness and Love. We also feel that because of what we see with our eyes, that maybe these things that go wrong are a "correction"[or rebuke] from God,somehow moving us away from and out of His divine Love. We constantly live as though God is ready to conk us on the head to get some important and changing message through to us stupid, no good mess ups. To be led internally is a whole new thing to us, for it is foreign to all that we formerly knew. Oh we knew impulses and lusts and even attempts to control but, we knew nothing of having eternal life inside. I think we have been led to assume that every problem is our own darn fault, and the world is loving every minute of seeing us agreeing right along with them in there self condemnation. For they love it when your [real] sincere heart is weighed down with legalistic bondage like they are. The world lives as if they must "get" something to be justified...God in the ones who are His, are justified..though it is not seen by the flesh.
Excellent insights!
Thanks for adding to this, Adam. It's great! :)
The Former Manner of Life..
Jim thanks!
..I was thinking about this more during breakfast and interacting with my family. I was thinking about the assumptions of the flesh and it's viewing things of the Spirit. Oddly enough, I have always seen that though the flesh can not SEE, it still has an opinion about the Spirit. So does the Spirit recognize the flesh as dead.[accept for it's judgment is TRUE] I was thinking about the millions of times in my life when I would be doing something from the Spirit, that I instantly recognized as genuine[as in the real article] but also recognized that others weren't SEEING it while viewing only from the appearance of my rough exterior[earthly judgments]. Christians often do see these manifestations of Life in us but, not always either. In fact it was you Jim that helped me so much with the encouragement that even within the voices in our OWN minds, that the flesh is always balking at the activity of The Spirit. The flesh may look VERY good on the outside before men...on the other hand the genuine Life of Jesus may not appear as real and true in some who might have a rough exterior. I have seen life come out of me when I was dead tired and unable to even be "polite" as the world calls it[and been judged for it by the flesh of course]...and on the other hand I have seen time and time again the flesh flaunting it's "good" works in front of me to prove it's own sense of supposed morality and justification. The thing about the flesh is when it is becoming known that it is Evil, it will hide and in fact often times go do "good works" to shut down any attack on it's proud self justification.It is going to show YOU, that it is JUST as "holy" and righteous and clean and perfect as the undeniable wisdom that radiates from within YOU!.[from the righteous One]It DOES NOT submit to the only cleansing available for sin...Jesus Christ. It thinks that by it's continual work to justify, that it can claim purity and "cleansing." But like you once said[but in another context]Jim, it is hard to wipe clean the oil on us with an oily rag! It is kind of a "cute" way to say that it does not work, though there is nothing really cute about it, in fact it is a very serious thing. We keep thinking that we will here a "denial of Christ" as obvious as the words themselves make it so...however MORE times than not, it comes in a much, much more casual and sneaky way..so as to stay hidden, under the radar..in the dark. Funny enough these same people will swear up and down that they have "faith" in God and that they "pray" and do good etc...Aha but, the denial continues. For the One who denies the Son[the cleansing from Sin and the bridge to God] can not know the Father, and therefore the Father does not hear him/them. Much like the book of both 1John and James explain thoroughly.
An encouraging interaction...
Thanks for giving your excellent commentary! :)
Being led by the Spirit
"If your heart is calling out to your Father, don't attribute it to a lack of being led, for it proof that you are being led."
How our heart longs to be with our Father. Just how far we fell from perfect and whole relationship with God is something we just cannot fathom. That He has brought us back into that perfect relationship is also unfathomable. And so that leading must be what is constantly bringing our hearts and minds towards deeper and deeper relationship with Him. And each other.
Even though He has accomplished all this, and we have been made perfect already; there are an abundance of lies messing with our thinking which He is constantly replacing with His truth as we walk with Him. Through all of the hideous circumstances living brings with it. (the renewing of our minds...)
When going through a series of immense losses recently, I lashed out at myself, believing that it was, again, my fault, my faulty decision making abilities. You know, really, thinking we can get it "right" in this world is really futile. (in terms of getting circumstances right in a broken and temporary world). we have been made right in HIM. Forever.
Jim, you have again, helped me immensely. I thank God for you.
God told me when I cried out to Him, "Vivien, you are free to be alive for the sake of being alive. No outcome is necessary. We live. You are alive Vivien. You have my best. You have me. I am so proud of you."
If that doesn't rock, then nothing does.
the grieving of the losses continues in this beauty.
sincerely,
Vivien.
thank you vivien ...
... for sharing your comfort in the midst of such grieving. hoping for that comfort to continue to hug you closely. :)
dignz
Being Fed
Jimmy my good friend how are you? The other day I ran into a youth pastor I knew from 10 years ago, he is now and "adult" preacher :) The conversation (as always) got around to "church" he asked where I was going? As always being the smartalic (spelling) I am, I replied I'm there now. He said no, you know what I mean. I said well I typically don't attend a church building service type. He then asked "how are you getting fed" I love the question. I simply answered, "I'm not hungry" I said "you know David I just choose to believe what was said about Jesus. He said, "what is that?" I said the bible states that when you have Jesus you will NEVER HUNGER OR THIRST for righteousness. I asked what does he think that means? He stammered, uhmed his way around to some long unrelated answer. I asked another smartalic question, do you think Jesus is like the food we eat for our body? Meaning if we don't get "enough" of the nourishment (Jesus) will it hurt us or will we feel unenergized? He said exactly. I quickly changed the subject as I was more interested in seeing what was really going on in his life versus getting to the "truth"
The simply realty is "we have him" there is NOTHING left to get.
Enough of my rambling.
John D
Never hunger or thirst!
John, so excellent to hear from you again!
Wow, your answer (wise guy or not) cut right to the chase about the need to be fed. Thanks for stopping by with such encouragement.
Jim :)
Awesome John!
John,
Luvin here...If I had heard that many years ago[your response] I would have really struggled with it and viewed you as a rebel.lol Now I just have to agree with you and point to the reality of Christ and the freedom He has managed to infuse into us internally! Great statements brother! We do percieve this "feeding" as through the flesh don't we? Thats mans view point for sure.
thanks,Adam
God's leading
Justifying our actions
Excellent post Jim...
God's Leading..Few Short Thoughts
adam
great thoughts
worthless humans ... hmmm ...
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