it is fitting to me that JIms last post on this site was concerning the Cross and its true meaning in the life of a believer. one thing that i notice especially is that the true meaning of the cross can only be found on the other side of the cross and the understanding of the finality and truth of it can only come to those who have experienced the God given truth of it. Anything else is going to fall short because it will be borne out of human understanding instead of revelation of the Holy Spirit.